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<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\nYou know the movie? If not \u2013 have a quick look at Wikipedia<\/a>. Basically, it is about a rebellious young man with a troubled past who comes to a new town, finding friends and enemies. Or watch the trailer<\/a> – from where I also have borrowed the pictures.<\/p>\n\n\n\n My parents (business and managers) would not understand me. I would just honestly try to do the right thing (test), but end up getting into fights between my parents (\u201cYou are tearing me apart\u201d) when they discuss about what should be important for me\u2026 (make the business tester happy or automate) or on how much I should drink (my testing should cost\u2026). And I still have to find my position in the gangs out there, battling happily along (the SAP testing tool providers). And with the gangs we fight for the right approach for testing SAP: method against tools\u2026 Who will chicken out (as Jim did in the movie, thus saving his life)?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Not to stress that analogy too much, let me summarize my experience at the conference: there are \u2013 except for the tool people \u2013 not too many participants and speakers at the DSAGJK19, who talk about testing. Looking at the agenda, there was (except for the talks of the tool people) exactly one talk with \u201ctest management\u201d in the title \u2013 and that was about how to best formulate the business processes to be tested so that test management can thrive on that. However, the tool people could give some very interesting insights of typically perceived potential issues.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Some of you, who read my articles do not\nknow SAP from the inside. So here a short list of some major differences in\ntesting SAP vs. your homegrown application:<\/p>\n\n\n\n I perceive as the biggest challenge the sheer size of the system, where it is just not possible to have an overview of the functionality nor the dependencies nor the customizations. How would you test that?<\/p>\n\n\n\n SAP actually provides many answers, ranging from unit testing (via QUnit, ABAPUint) via component testing frameworks (OPA5 for testing of UI5 modules) to test automation tools like ECatt. They have thought about integration in CI\/CD and about interfaces to what I would call \u201cproper testing tools\u201d, \u2026 but mainly: they believe in a standardized approach: model your solution properly into nice process diagrams, then you basically have your business process tests already at hand. Add some test data and you are set. <\/p>\n\n\n\n Is this sufficient? What about further parts of the solution whenever you do not follow the standard SAP, for example in case you have customized too much. Customizations as part of the ECC core in the so called Z-Room will not fit to the standard SAP approach! Who will test anything other than happy path? And what if the users did not invest in proper process descriptions? How do you manage the frequent update schedule? How do you do regression test efficiently? And what if your landscape is complex, beyond those many ECC systems extending into SAP cloud applications, apps from the cloud? Where there is no standard business process?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Obviously, the tool people gangs also think that SAP\u2019s answers do not suffice. They give a lot of answers to questions I did not hear at the conference. I still wonder if this is because I was at the wrong places, or if the SAP business user community takes the availability of test as granted. And one gang was not even there (Micro Focus), maybe as they just knew they are the old dog? So here are some of the questions where I found answers:<\/p>\n\n\n\n How can I reduce the effort for the business users?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n How can I test my customizations?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n In a transaction based system, how can I get test data?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n What about loosely coupled systems and other modern stuff?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n I am sure, I have not covered everything, and I am still a bit overwhelmed and need to read more. But I would expect more methodological guidance answering questions like: what do I need to test in which level? What is tested by SAP and what is my job? How ca I get grips on the test of customization,s, and worse: of their transfer to S\/4 Hana? And why do I have to rely on business testers? When would I need educated testers? And what if I seriously work in an agile way? Who chickens out first in the race of method against tool?<\/p>\n\n\n\n I understand, that these would not be the questions of tool people, but I would like to understand the real quality problems of the SAP community to give good answers, as a mix between methods and tool usage.<\/p>\n\n\n\n From the conference I got the impression\nthat the SAP folks think that they don\u2019t have an issue at least with testing\nthe good old ECC system. Whatever they do, they do it since ever, there is not\nenough pain to change it. But I would like to ask the question:<\/p>\n\n\n\n Given that you already have a working\nstrategy to test your SAP core ERP system (ECC), what is your next testing\nchallenge:<\/p>\n\n\n\n I did not get the answers on the DSAGJK19.\nNeed to find a different way to find out. <\/p>\n\n\n\n <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" The German SAP users\u2019 organization just had their yearly event #DSAGJK19, using the analogy to movies as leitmotif through the conference. Visiting the conference with a testing mindset, the movie I had to think of was \u201cA rebel without a cause\u201d (You know, the one where James Dean had a …<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[5,31],"tags":[32],"class_list":["post-381","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-e2e-test","category-sap-test","tag-dsagjk19"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/testhexen.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/381","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/testhexen.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/testhexen.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/testhexen.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/testhexen.de\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=381"}],"version-history":[{"count":13,"href":"https:\/\/testhexen.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/381\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":400,"href":"https:\/\/testhexen.de\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/381\/revisions\/400"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/testhexen.de\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=381"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/testhexen.de\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=381"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/testhexen.de\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=381"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}} What is the Cause for Rebellion?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n
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<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\nWhat is the Answer of SAP?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n
The Gangs’ Perspective<\/h2>\n\n\n\n
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<\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\nWhat next?<\/h2>\n\n\n\n